Wednesday, December 20, 2006

Let the speculation begin.........

79 comments:

Andrew said...

I think this is how a private conversation went between IoC and the PAGB...

IoC: Hey, we'd like to give you a brand new, state-of-the-art multi-purpose arena for no cost. Just let us build a casino. That's all we ask.

PAGB: Duurrrrr...I spit chocolate fountain assballs! Rainbow kitty cats save mexican!

IoC: Um...excuse me?

PAGB: Oh say does our butter sing! Star! Majesty!

IoC:...Fuck.

Anonymous said...

fuckin hell

-Jay

Elly said...

Well shit.

Let's hope plan B is a good one. I don't know what to say on possible funding for an arena without knowing the ownership situation...maybe Mario will keep it for another year and try to fund it that way? Private donations? Fundraisers? It is a heck of a lot of money, though...

Anonymous said...

Lower Hill District casino
New $290 million arena for Penguins
Reconnect Lower Hill with Downtown
27 acres to be redeveloped
1,500 jobs to be created
Temporary casino - parking lot across from Crawford Square

$1.1 billion investment
North Shore casino
5,000 machines
Waterfront development
New hotel with riverfront view
Committed to "Plan B"for new arena

seriously, this is all fucking bullshit. im just glad i dont live in the city and will have to worry about my taxes going up

Anonymous said...

Lets hope the Pens have actually been thinking about Plan B behind the scenes, and that who ever buys the team has an assload of money to spend.

This is the first time I can remember being ashamed of being from PA. Fuck.

Joshua said...
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Andrew said...

I would have no problem with D'Angelo purchasing the team and funding an arena...Hell, "Steelback Arena" sounds pretty cool to me. And I would have no problem buying their beer. Shit...they could even take over Iron City and make Steelback here...I'd be OK with that if the Pens stayed...

Joshua said...

Aw damnit.

I cant believe it. This is just unreal. I hate politicians so much because of their angles and who's behind them. If Dan Onorato and Pittsburgh politicans weren't such assholes IOC would have gotten it.

Jerome Bettis can suck it.
Get the hell out of our city.

Growing up I never thought we could lose the pens. But now our fear of losing the penguins is becoming a creeping reality.

Anyone notice that after the decision WDVE played Guns and Roses's "Patience"?

Anonymous said...

This is very bad news. The Penguins have no attachment to Pittsburgh after June.

The NHL might rally for Pittsburgh, but I really don't believe it's going to absolutely bar an owner from leaving. Maybe it will be harsher than Jimmy Balls wanted, but for the viability of the league they're not going to have a team continue to play at Mellon.

This is a terrible day.

Anonymous said...

I must be missing something. It makes no senes whatsoever that IOC didn't win the license.

Time to say goodbye to our beloved Pens. It won't be the same in another city.

wes said...

Pensblog fans... read between the lines. I cannot believe I didn't realize this before:

"And Mr. Barden, who is black, is also the only minority applicant in the state, which was considered an advantage because the state wanted to include minority-owned businesses in its new casino enterprise." Straight from the PG.

Look, I am not playing the "color card" by any means... this is a fact and how the cookie crumbles. No use crying over the spilt milk.

Anonymous said...

From what I've heard, D'Angelo is a freakin nut. The reason he couldnt buy the CFL team was that he wanted to put his beer logo on their uni's and change the team name to the "Steelbacks". Oh, and I hear the beer is awful. He still might be better than Ball-Silly though.

Andrew said...

Fuck it...I'd gladly take the Pittsburgh Steelbacks over the goddamned Kansas City Penguins or Las Vegas Penguins or Hamilton/Waterloo Penguins.

And fuckin go ahead...put your beer logo on the unis...Ever seen European leagues?

Rico Fatastic said...

If the Pens haven't been privately formulating a response to Plan B, then they deserve to disband for being a terribly run business. That being said, Plan B's going to happen. Too many young and/or up-and-coming politicans (read: Onorato, Ravenstahl) have too much to lose by botching this development AND losing the Pens. Same can be said for Governor Rendelphia. I think Plan B will happen, it's just a matter of how much the Pens are going to have to pay.

Beyond the Penguins, this was a stupid, short-sighted move by the Commonwealth that will play a huge role in the continued, hoped for renaissance of this city. I think that too many people have failed to realize that all we do is talk about restoring the 5th/Forbes Corridor, yet we make no moves to reconnect the Hill/uptown/Oakland to the area. The redevelopment proposed by IOC could have been the uptown anchor the 5th/Forbes redevlopment that's starting with the new PNC Place around Liberty and Market. Instead, we get another freestanding establishment on the North Shore that will be surrounded by more parking lots and empty hotels.

On the bright side, at least Station Square isn't going to be ruined...

Joshua said...

I dont care what they do to the Uni's at all. All I can think about is how messed up this all is.

Jerome Bettis is on the news now acting like he's hot shit.

The real pain is no one who grew up or even lives here made the decision.

wes said...

rico, have you been to station square lately?

Colcloughs Hands said...

luke needs to grab his nuts....this could be his legacy

Andrew said...

Definitely...this could make or break Luke Ravenstahl's potential career as mayor of Pittsburgh.

Anonymous said...

how bad can steelbacks be? it can't be any worse than iron city.
i don't really give a shit as long as the pens stay.

oh, and fuck you jerome!

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Rico Fatastic said...

wes,

station square's not perfect, but it's about as good as any other nightspot in the area. it's affordable, the clubs are all pretty solid, and it's incredibly safer than going to the strip (unless you want to be shot at Touch). Parking's easy to find, cabs are about as plentiful as it gets around here (which isn't saying much), and though the Ampitheatre could use a major overhaul, it's good enough for government work. Plus, the view from Bessemer Court's fantastic. It's not perfect, but it's an all-around great place to spend a Friday or Saturday night.

The Forest City plan would've blown all of it up, with the exception of the mall and fountain.

Mark Rauterkus said...

Nods to this:

If the Pens haven't been privately formulating a response to Plan B, then they deserve to disband for being a terribly run business.

Penguins fans, IMHO, there is a need now to advance a discussion about the building of a new arena around the airport. That's where the new arena should be built. And, the Pens should design it, build it, and own it. The Pens can use some of the finances from this slots parlor license deal.

The best way to ground the team in the region is to have the Pens own its own building -- and close to its customers.

Anonymous said...

Plan B will work, I have faith in that. A big part of why I.O.C. didnt get the slots liscense is because of public outcry of the casino being too close to the residential area of the hill. PITG's design was the nicest of the 3, to be fair. The north shore and it's connecting roadways are already capable of handling the traffic flow that the new casino will bring. Give credit to Barden as well for being willing to pony up 7.7 mil for 30 years. I do however believe that the pens deserve an arena at little or no cost. Unfortunately, that wont be the case. However, if the pens are truly committed to staying in Pittsburgh they will have to put some money up. This will prove if Mario and the ownership group really does want to stay here in Pittsburgh. Plan B is not that bad of a proposal. Let's just hope Mario and the group do not go stubborn on the city and leave.

Anonymous said...

What exactly, is the Plan B proposal? And if its so great how come I havent heard anything about it?

seth said...

Fuck Jerome Bettis. Fuck Ed Rendell

Colcloughs Hands said...

sometimes life is just a bucket of suck.....

Anonymous said...

Here's hoping that the Gaming Board's plane crashes into the Allegheny River when they're going to the grand opening of that shithole casino.

Mitch said...

You haven't heard about Plan B because there really isn't a Plan B yet.

Rendell has suggested this: Majestic Star would pay toward the arena while the state paid $7 million a year, and the Penguins paid $8.5 million upfront and $2.9 million a year, while forgoing $1.1 million a year in naming rights.

Looks to me like the Pens are as good as gone.

Anonymous said...

Plan B from what I have heard is Barden's group paying 7.7 mil a year for 30 years, The Pens 3.3 mil a year for 30 years (Rendall said that is negotiable) and 1.1 a yr coming from concession and naming rights, that 7.7 from Barden could be wrong though, that would mean his group would put up 231 mil. That plus the pens 99 mil and the 33 mil from concession and naming rights would put the grand total at 363 mil, where i heard isle of capri who was going to fully fund the arena was looking at 290 mil. I dont know perhaps someone else has other figures

Andrew said...

Barden's "offer" (if you can call it that) of 7.5mil over 30 years is a joke. He knows that it is about as worthless as the board that granted him the license.

Seriously, let's be realistic. 225 million over 30 years is still not even enough to finance the INITIAL costs of a new arena. It's a meaningless gesture.

Joshua said...

Hey I made a video
Tried to use the best music possible given the situation:
(copy and paste)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWcMYl8M_qc

Anonymous said...

If the Pens haven't been privately formulating a response to Plan B, then they deserve to disband for being a terribly run business.

Of course they have backup plans, and I'm sure some of them have to be either A)selling to someone else or B)considering a move at the end of this season

That being said, Plan B's going to happen. Too many young and/or up-and-coming politicans (read: Onorato, Ravenstahl) have too much to lose by botching this development AND losing the Pens. Same can be said for Governor Rendelphia. I think Plan B will happen, it's just a matter of how much the Pens are going to have to pay.

I disagree. The politicos can fall back on that they supported the IOC in the first place and still came up with a Plan B but it was the Penguins who didn't give enough, regardless of what's happened to Mario in the past 7+ years.

Politicans careers won't be made or broken over the Penguins, because let's face it, hockey isn't a mainstream enough sport. Those that are fans are rabid but it's not as if the Pirates or Steelers are on the verge of packing up and leaving.

They're building a brand new arena in Kansas City as we speak, and itching for a pro hockey or basketball team to inhabit it. I'm sure the Pens could get a more favorable lease than $8.5 million up front and then $3+ million (app) for the next 30 years.

MakeGretzkysHeadBleed said...

I think we need to deal with the hand that we have been dealt. IF as wes says, the PAGB pulled the race card, then shame on them but it doesn't change the facts.

We are going to have to work with Barden.

The real issue is that I think it is time for Cuban to put up or shut up. He posted on his blog that he missed an opportunity when the pens agreed to sell to Ball-Silly. Isn't it interesting that Cuban always offers to buy burgh teams that are not for sale????
Even if Cuban does step up, Lebo still sucks.

We need to talk the Steelback guys into buying the Pens and Pittsburgh Brewing Co., they both need saving!
Besides I think the Iron City Center has a pretty good ring to it....

Anonymous said...

Buckle down, Pens fans. The next 6 months will be key.
There are three major chances left in our hand.

1) Getting an owner that genuinely wants to keep the Penguins in Pittsburgh (this probably means a Pittsburgh-connected owner).
2) The NHL preventing or frowning upon moving the franchise. Coming off a difficult lockout and looking to present stability as a major sport, the NHL can ill afford to have a franchise - one selling out regularly and having some of the best and most marketable stars in the sport - to pack up and move. That would look awful for the NHL. In addition, no city that has won a Stanley Cup has ever lost its team. This point has additional credence with reports that Balsille renounced his bid when the NHL reportedly refused to budge on an agreement to keep the Penguins in Pittsburgh. Keep going to the games, Pens fans, talk up the team, call the radio, write the paper, keep the buzz going.... a strong and vital franchise is much harder to move.
3) The politicians, who (if the uproar over the decision is loud enough) will have their political lives based on handling the arena (and consequently, the Penguins) issue correctly. Particularly with the relative youth of key decision makers (as Rico Fantastic pointed out), their political futures will probably hinge on their handling of this issue. Be spoken. Pay attention to decisions. Make it known that your vote is going to be tied to the Penguins remaining.

Get ready to fight tooth and nail, boys (and girls). If the Pens ever leave, it will be near-impossible to get a team back. We have to keep them here. Time to put it in hard.

Anonymous said...

I hope Jerome Bettis dies and anyone who is a steelers fan gets full blown aids.

Anonymous said...

any links to what bettis said?

Colcloughs Hands said...

um, theres people who are steelers AND penguins fans.........and the steelers released a statement CONDEMNING the awarding of that license to barden

Colcloughs Hands said...

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/10575516/detail.html

Anonymous said...

to hate jerome bettis for being a part of the barden group is a little extreme isnt it? its not his fault IoC didnt get the liscence. He helped bring to the city what almost everyone wanted and the city loves him. I think he wants the pens to stay here.

Anonymous said...

i heard jerome bettis is al queda :P

Anonymous said...

Ok I retract my statement about steelers fans. I just read an article about the steelers denouncing this. I have lost alot of respect for Jerome Bettis. I hate this race BS. Why is it such a big deal if someone is black.

If Ioc won and I stood up and said, Ioc is a great orginization, plus the owner is white! Would I not be called a racist.

The state just spit in the face of the penguins. If I was mario I would send the team packing.

Anonymous said...

Mario has done twice as much for this area than Jerome Bettis. This is total bs.

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Zarley Zalapski is my homeboy said...

I know, Don Barden wants to make money just like everyone else. No need to hate him for winning.

There's all this absolutely retarded misdirected anger here. It's pretty funny actually. Barden, Bettis, now the Steelers, the Steelers fans....

Ummmmmm shouldn't you be mad at the gaming board? It's like catching your wife cheating on you and being pissed at the guy... but hey, he was just getting laid like anyone else would. Your wife's the whore that decided to fuck him!

First off, I knew IOC wasn't getting the damn license from day one. That's why I've always been prepared to look at a Plan B, because I figured in the end it would be the only chance we had anyways. What other team gets a 100% free arena anyways?!?!

Second, I thought Harrah's was the group that the "fix was in" for? I guess today's decision just blew that conspiracy theory out of the water.

Third, Baldsilly backed out of the deal because the NHL wanted him to keep the team here NO MATTER WHAT!! Earth to hysterical puckheads... THAT'S A VERY GOOD THING FOR US!!!!

Fourth, of course I wanted IOC to win the license. But, think about it, is a gambling facility in the most impoverished area of town REALLY a great idea?! I mean really? You think so?! IOC should have offered to build the arena and some developments in the lower hill, and offered to put the casino somewhere else in my opinion. I bet there would've been a better chance they would've got the license had they done that.

And finally, I bet any money that the Pens are on the horn with Mayor Luke as we speak. By the way, how does today's decision reflect poorly on him? Is he on the gaming board?! Did I miss that?! We finally get a young, promising mayor to help turn the city around, and an angry mob of hockey fans wants to run the guy out of town already.

I love this site, but sometimes it turns into "Whiney Pittsburgh Puckhead Central". That more than anything, tends to make me embarassed to be from Pittsburgh.

Until next time, fuck Jerome Bettis, and try go get a law passed to have anyone caught wearing a Steelers hat at a Pens game arrested or something..... ::end sarcasm::

Anonymous said...

I have mover from the angry stage to the sad stage. I guess maybe its time to move from pittsburgh. I know what some people will say, if you don't like it here well then leave. Have you looked around lately, most people under 30 have followed that advice. Its decisions like this on both the state and city level that make it this way.

Anonymous said...

Third, Baldsilly backed out of the deal because the NHL wanted him to keep the team here NO MATTER WHAT!! Earth to hysterical puckheads... THAT'S A VERY GOOD THING FOR US!!!!

Highly inaccurate. The NHL wants to keep the team in Pittsburgh, but it wants to dictate the terms of whether or not a Plan B is 'viable'. Jimmy Balls wanted to decide what the point of being 'viable' was and wasn't willing to spend $175 million to have to listen to Bettman & co.

The NHL not going to keep the team in town 'no matter what'. They realize without a new facility the organization is dead in the water.

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Anonymous said...

thats a very educated comment and solution.

Anonymous said...

why dont you wait til the moving trucks pull away to motherfuck a whole race

Anonymous said...

Can we stop the racist names. It doesn't help our cause. I think its more benficial to point out the racism of the decision as opposed to being racist ourselves. I'm sure the panel was mostly white (not sure on this). What we as people have to do is start grading things on merit and forget the race implications. It was obvious what should of happened today, and that race had a great deal to do with what went down.

Just remember that when you vote and remember what policitcal party brought this race bating to you. Vote Republican, if for nothing else to get competing ideas out there on how things are run.

chris said...

please refrain from making racial comments on the blog...it refelcts poorly on all of us here at thepensblog...

we understand you all are very upset over today's rulings, but please let's be mature about it. we are all united in our will for the penguins to remain in pittsburgh, lets just keep our emotions under control


thanks guys and gals


lets go pens!

Joshua said...

Thanks for keepin this place clean chris

Anonymous said...

This is a sad day for an even sadder city.

Anonymous said...

Well, it was nice being a Pens fan while it lasted.

I hope KC treats Crosby and Malkin well.

Joshua said...

I know I'm postin alot but this whole thing has me fumed
from the AP:

Onorato and Ravenstahl all but promised the Penguins will get a new arena. A parcel of land near Mellon Arena has already been obtained for the arena, and officials said a groundbreaking ceremony could be held as early as next month if they can reach an agreement with the Penguins.

"There is absolutely no doubt in my mind we will get an arena done," Ravenstahl said.


Did Onorato just become our best friend? DONT GIVE UP ON THE PENS YET DAMNIT!

Rico Fatastic said...

the words missing from the end of that Onorato quote:

"...provided they're willing to open up their checkbook."

in other news, from the P-G casino blog:
An alert reader has been scanning the KC papers, and says the region is licking its chops (no mention of Plan B in this story, you'll notice):

"Kansas City's chances of bringing the Pittsburgh Penguins to the new Sprint Center next fall greatly increased today, thanks to the Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board. The seven-member board denied awarding a slots license to Isle of Capri Casinos, which had pledged to commit $290 million toward a new arena that would replace the Penguins' antiquated Mellon Arena, and unanimously granted it to PITG Gaming. Isle of Capri's agreement with the Penguins, as part of its license application, would have legally bound the Penguins to stay in Pittsburgh for 20 years even if the franchise, which is on the market, is sold. [About] a year ago, Tim Leiweke, president of Anschutz Entertainment Group, which will operate Sprint Center, said, 'If the Pittsburgh Penguins don't have an arena deal in place by 2007, they could be the Kansas City Penguins.'

"Those words could come to fruition. William 'Boots' Del Biaggio, a San Jose, Calif., venture capitalist, has signed an agreement with AEG to own and operate an NHL franchise when one becomes available. Del Biaggio made a bid to buy the Pittsburgh franchise in 2005, but the club was taken off the market at the 11th hour after the Penguins won the right to select Sidney Crosby with the first pick of the draft."

That's via writer Randy Covitz of the The Kansas City Star.
----
...do you think the KC Pens will go back to the blue/white unis?

EmDubs said...

Nice job, PAGB..... you successfully screwed over all 3 Pittsburgh sports franchises in one day..... no one could've done it better than you.....

Anonymous said...

Well, its offical. This is the straw that broke my back with this place. I am moving. I think I will move somewhere where the average age is lower that 72.

Anonymous said...

i don't even know where to begin...i actually cried today when I heard the press conference. My biggest fears came true, that I actually thought for once a politician would get something right. I was wrong, I no longer have faith in anyone in the public eye.

Mario was told to find private money for the areana, then he did, and still no new building.

I could go on and on about this, but i know it wouldn't be worth it, i really think OUR pens are gone... what could we do now anyway....


Will
Butler

seth said...

hey joshua.. where'd you find that AP article?

Joshua said...

Seth:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AqD0Awm.jSVulw.jkO0aIsB7vLYF?slug=ap-penguinssale-slots&prov=ap&type=lgns

Yahoo sports under NHL.

Anonymous said...

Third, Baldsilly backed out of the deal because the NHL wanted him to keep the team here NO MATTER WHAT!! Earth to hysterical puckheads... THAT'S A VERY GOOD THING FOR US!!!!

Quoth Gary Bettman:
"The decision by the Gaming Commission was terrible news for the Penguins, their fans and the NHL. [b]The future of this franchise in Pittsburgh is uncertain and the Penguins now will have to explore all other options, including possible relocation.[/b] The NHL will support the Penguins in their endeavors."

The NHL let teams from places like Winnipeg, Hartford and freakin QUEBEC CITY to relocate. If you think they're going to rally for the city of Pittsburgh (especially after how the local politicans have jerked Lemieux around) you're kidding yourself.

Dennis said...

Way to get into the holiday spirit Gaming Control Board. I always thought politicians were supposed to be the voice of the people but I guess the 6 inch stack of signatures in support of IoC presented to them wasn't enough.

Anonymous said...

i am thinking the ballsille pullout was an 11th hour power play by the penguins and IOC to try and gain more leverage with the GCB, first by having ballsuckie go before the board last week and say he was open to a plan B, then mysteriously pull his offer off the table due to "mysterious" points of contention with the league
i also think thats why he says the deal isnt dead, and why mario said they werent giving back his deposit.....i still think he is a player in this

Scott said...

Lets go out in style and win the whole damn thing this year

Adrienne said...

This is a tragedy.
If IOC is awarded the slots license, it will pay $290 million over 90 days to fully fund a new, multipurpose, Uptown facility that will serve as home to the Penguins.

versus

Barden says he will pledge $7.5 million a year for 30 years to build a new arena for the Penguins as part of the so-called "Plan B."

I'm so pleased to know that the city and state both know how to make solid decisions.

I don't even know where to begin with bitching about this, I'm just so disgusted with this.

Had it been the steelers, people would be sacrificing children and cutting off limbs to save the team.

Fuck Pittsburgh. I hate our city sometimes...

Anonymous said...

i really hope that if they do move the team they move it to Kansas City. That way in 3 years when no one is going to games because its fucking kansas they can talk about moving the team again and i can go kick some more dogs....which is how i have spent the last 10 hours.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_Scouts

so you can read about the last great NHL franchise in Kansas City

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Will
Butler

Anonymous said...

would mario stand to make more money if his franchise had an arena to play in? wouldnt it be in his best interest to negotiate a plan B, sign a long term lease, then sell the team?

buccoboo said...

I want the Penguins to stay in Pittsburgh, badly. But, in the unfortunate event that they are to move, let it be to a town where the fans will actually appreciate the team. Winnipeg and Hamilton, for gods sake. Let Canadian residents embrace their sport, cause Kansas City certainly will not.

It really is disgusting that the Pirates, who don't get any fans in the stands, got a new ball park, whereas the Penguins, who are widely popular and second only to the Steelers, do not get a new arena. In the 90's and at the turn of the century, it was easy to get seats to the Pirates and impossible to get seats to the Penguins.

It's disgusting.

Pirates = In an unfair market. Cannot and will not ever win due to owners only caring about the money that comes in on their revenue checks. Crappy fan base.

Penguins = Fair market. Are winning. Large fan base.

I'm a Pirates, Penguins, and Steelers fan, by the way.

And I have a feeling that Jerome wants the team to stay in Pittsburgh. As does Barden.

Jerome is trying to make a more permanent figure out of himself in the city.

Riots outside of the casino due to the second most popular team in the city moving is not the sort of beginning Mr. Barden would more than likely prefer.

Anonymous said...

Get a clue people. They are gone. G-O-N-E Gone. Forget it. Say hello to the K.C. Penguins. Nice job. Nice.
If you don't think it'll happen remember this: the Dodgers used to be in Brooklyn, the Giants in at the Polo Grounds and the Colts in Baltimore. All of them in are in other cities because they received sweetheart deals. That's what will happen with the Pens. Mario owes the city nothing. He should dump the team and go play golf for the rest of his life. All he did for that town, on and off the ice and the politicians screwed him. Well it's time he returns the favor.

TheGuyFromPgh said...

It is very disheartening that there probably won't be a future for the Pens in Pittsburgh, esp at a time when I don't cry after eveyry game. But wouldn't you really call this par for the course?

This is afterall, a city were there are fewer and fewer job oppertunities, business is in decline, and when politicians make a move they say is "going to benifit the area" it blows up in they're fat stupid faces and only causes us more grief. Should we really be so upset that something horrible as this happened? Didn't we all really expect something like this to happen in our heart of hearts?

We've been kicked in the nuts and jerked around by the shittiest fuckin owners in the world. i.e. Nuttings and McCheapy, screwed by the gaming board, the Steelers aren't even making the playoffs, Pitt football is in the shitter, there is no way Pitt basketball is gonna win the NCAA championship. Sports is the only thing this city had to be proud of other than the old steel mills...What does that leave us with?? With this city already being a dark, depressing, soul sucking son of a bitch, I would call this last kick in the nuts the final nail in the coffin.. Our city is on life support and the plug is gonna be pulled soon.

And why the fuck is our city so fucking broke??? The Steelers won the Super Bowl, didn't the city get any of that cash?? And if they did, what the fuck happened to it? I mean, come on! We paid the fucking taxes on that big bitch they play in, can't we get a fuckin break or something? I am so tired of this shit... I moved out the burgh 4 years ago for work but I am going back soon to go to Pitt for a bachelors in Engineering and it absolutely freightens me cause I think I'm gonna be fuckin depressed all the time!

Fuck all the politicians, they don't do a fuckin thing for the people. 1% of the country has 99% of the money and they aint given us a fuckin penny of it! FUCK!!! It sucks to be broke and sucks even worse to be from Pittsburgh... There isn't too much to be proud of that anymore. When I tell people where I'm from, they don't give a shit.

Rich said...

The only good things are that 1. The NHL seems to be serious about keeping the Pens in the Burgh and 2. The decision came today instead of being a long process that wasn't completed until after the season or the sale of the team.

Chris said...

I think a lot of people are overreacting. Plan B is still very much alive, and if the Pens will open up the pocketbook and pay the necessary fees, there's a good chance the team stays.

Onorato and Ravenstahl are very willing to talk about Plan B, because if the team leaves on their watch, they will be the ones who get the blame.

Bettman has been getting more kudos for playing hardball and winning with the Players' Association, as well as the increased attendances. But if the first team to ever relocate after winning the Stanley Cup moves while he's the commissioner, he'll be seen as a complete joke. I think this latest "They may have to look into relocation" thing is just a ploy to try and put the fire under Onorato and Ravenstahl's feet again. Because if he he says they can't move, the politicians will have no incentive to get a deal worked out quickly.

Have faith folks, because I have a feeling a few days, possibly more due to the holidays, the roller coaster will be on the way back up, and hopefully it'll keep climbing without taking a plunge.

Bake said...

Jerome Bettis--"This is a great day for the city of Detro...wait, what, I mean Pittsburgh."

A Detroit based company wins a license to build a casino in an already crowded area of Pittsburgh. What a fantastic idea! Now, Barden can fly in workers from Detroit based construction companies, get Detroit based people to help fund the new restaraunts and what not he supposedly is building in the North Shore area. Here's a fantastic set-up. Steelers fans leaving a Monday night showdown boozed up and pissed off at a loss (theoretically speaking) and there's a bunch of drunk scumbags who are pissed off because they just blew a bunch of money they didn't have in the casino...GOOD SITUATION!

Oh by the way, those plans thay fly in the Detroit companies will be flying the other way full of Pittsburgh cash. The only city that benefitted from this move is the city of Detroit. Fuck Jerome Bettis. He's not from Pittsburgh, what does he care?

My brother told me today that some jabroni called into Honsberger on KDKA today and said that it's about time and maybe they'll finally build a new Giant Eagle in the Hill now that this black man has proposed to help out the Hill. Hons answered simply by saying the reason they took the current Giant Eagle out was because they lost more money to shop lifting than they made selling groceries. And now we're taking even more money away from these people by giving them a casino where they will gamble away money they don't have. Has anyone in Pittsburgh been to Vegas? This isn't Chevy Chase and his family in National Lampoon's. You don't just show up and win 5 cars and 10 million dollars every time you stop in.

This whole situation is a fucking joke. I'm telling you right now that there are going to be a lot of angry people who never go to this casino because they won't support someone who didn't support our city. This is a very messy situation that has potential to get really bad.

Sorry for the huge rant, but I'm pissed off. I can't believe that something so widely supported by the people and legislators of this city didn't win in comparison to something that no one stands to benefit from(unless, as previously stated, you're from Detroit)


To quote the boys from Slapshot...I guess we only have one choice...WIN THE WHOLE FUCKING THING.

PittCheMBA said...

If the Penguins move out of Pittsburgh, the fans will hate the local politicians: Luke (you are our only hope Skywalker), Dan O, and Mr. Ed. I hope they make Plan B workable, because their political careers could be shortened if the Pens move.

Governor Ed Played the RACE CARD! said...

I wrote a small letter to Gov.Ed, I ased him why the I.O.C did not get deal. Here is what I got in Return.

Thank you for sending your concerns to the Governor's Office.



In March, the Governor announced his plan to fund a new arena in downtown Pittsburgh that would use no taxpayer dollars and could be implemented immediately. Governor Rendell remains solidly committed to keeping the Penguins at home, in Pittsburgh. Recently, Governor Rendell has been in touch with County Executive Onorato and Mayor Ravenstahl and in the near future, will reach out the Penguins’ owners about finalizing the financing package for the new arena. Governor Rendell also will meet with the principal of PITG Gaming, Don Barden, one of the most successful minority gaming owners in the U.S., to formalize his commitment to the arena.

Since announcing the ‘Pittsburgh Arena Now’ plan in March, Governor Rendell has held true to his commitment to begin planning, and we have successfully completed preliminary plans to build a new arena to house the Pittsburgh Penguins. The necessary land has been acquired and design and financing plans have been in the planning stages while we awaited the Gaming Control Board decision.

Governor Rendell remains steadfast on his commitment to continue working closely with Mayor Ravenstahl, County Executive Onorato, the Penguins owners and NHL officials on plans for a new arena. Working together will ensure that our Pittsburgh Penguins remain at home.



We appreciate you taking the time to send your concerns. Should you need further assistance on an issue related to Pennsylvania state government, please do not hesitate to contact our office again.



Thank you.

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